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Originally Posted by RougeUnderoos
That's a pretty strange argument. You acknowledge that these practices were wrong but criticize the people who fought against them.
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I criticize the way in which they fought, not the mentality of fighting segregation in general. I criticize the bombs in civillian areas, the tactics etc. Is that so wrong? The US black community managed to accomplish it without violence and bombs, Ghandi managed to accomplish quite a bit without violence and bombs. The British/IRA didnt accomplish very much with violence and bombs, but started to make progress when violence had ceased - to a degree. What did Israel just accomplish with violence and bombs in Lebanon..other than creating another 1982 which will simply strengthen Hezbollah? There are many ways of resistance and many ways to solve issues, planting bombs on streets filled with people certainly isn't the best rout, and those who do that, should be brought to justice and not looked at as heros.
As much as we, as westerners look at the Arabs and wonder how they can support a group like Al Quada or similar groups, how they can support it's leaders the same can apply to you. Mandela applied these same tactics and you agree with him. So maybe try to understand an Arab prespective of the issues facing them these days? To many Arabs, Al Quada is fighting the "evil" American empire and the supression of it's citizens through sanctions, support for Israel and wars such as Iraq. Seems very legitimate from there stand point, just as the ANCs tactics seem legit to you.. Hence why i believe they are connected and why i use them as examples. Sure the death ratio of Al Quada to those in South Africa cannot be compared, the negligence and tactics are the same.
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Originally Posted by RougeUnderoos
As far as I'm concerned, condemning Mandela for his actions is like condemning someone who resisted the Nazis.
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Thats a bit extreme.
Comparing seperating races with a regieme that exterminated 6+ million people? Simply seperating races and making people second class citizens, whether that be by race, religion or by sex is certainly no where near the extremes of what the Nazi party managed to do.
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Originally Posted by RougeUnderoos
I don't buy that "murder is murder" stuff either. If someone burns down your house and kills your kids while he's at it, you might kill him, and if you do, it's a little more understandable than if you went into a gas station and shot the clerk for the cash in the till.
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If someone brutally murders my mother and i seek revenge, I too am a murderer. No matter how much the situation may be understood.
We're not talking self defense here, so i don't know where your going with this. You have already admited you don't know much about South African history or the full motives of the ANC and it's resistance wings, so...