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Originally Posted by jonesy
I don't understand how people wouldn't have some type ID. Wouldn't they need it for social assistance programs, welfare or any other reason? With no ID do they show up in any other govt. database at all? If they really have no ID could they get money from the govt? If they do, I don't think it would be cash, so they might need a bank account. I really am not sure how someone could have no ID in this age, unless completely homeless, which as a demographic likely doesn't have high rate of voting.
Is it a worse problem if no ID is required to vote? Wouldn't that be a worse thing overall allowing parties to cheat easier?
Genuinely curious
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the ability to affect a legitimate election beyond the level of city dog catcher requires tens of thousands of ballots, all those ballots need an address and a name, they have to be applied for, in itself this would me a massive task requiring several hundred people, somehow you have to intercept the voter cards before they arrive at the addresses that have to be real to get accepted.
Now you have to head down to the polling station and vote, you would need hundreds maybe thousands of fake voters to reasonably allign with the fake ballots you have somehow managed to pull off, they need to know the name and address of who they are supposed to be, they cant vote twice in the same station.
The scale and complexity of it, coupled with the huge chance of it all falling apart and everyone going to jail for a crime with no financial payoff makes it an absurd idea and no one would bother.
There are two ways you fix an election, ballot stuffing, which is the russian third world favourite, the party in power just takes the ballot boxes from the polling stations openly and tears up the real ballots and shoves in their own, or just tears up the ones for the opposition party before it gives the ballot boxes back, this is pretty much done in the open, no one thinks its a fair election.
Then there is the US way which is to just minimise the colored vote, gerrymander the districts or bring in voter laws to disqualify colored voters, like ID laws.