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Originally Posted by Ozy_Flame
We don't have time to tell people to start making individual choices? What? How long does it take to tell someone? No wonder you think 'why bother' with anything if China and India aren't doing it. Defeatism at it's worst.
I'll mention it one more time - change starts with the individual and bubbles upward. Carbon taxes and environmental policy are implemented by people motivated to do better. You need to accept this as the root of human ingenuity, cultural change, and community growth. Societal change happens when individuals make rational choices to implement it, and use social mechanisms to achieve it on a macro-level scale.
Now, if you have fantastic research on hand regarding livestock production and how it's less of a footprint than other dietary sources, I'd be happy to see data and science. Please provide the links to the research you are referring to.
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I think people have far less agency to create change.
A society is governed by economic and social forces beyond any individuals control and any actions to try to generate change likely fail given how much money is spent on driving certain behavioural outcomes.
In general it will be technology that drives change not people.
And even when people are successful at gaining influence I think who they are is fairly random. Someone like Greta now has influence but it’s mostly random chance that she has the stage she now has.
Individual actions don’t overcome the weight of the machine. I’ve been reading far too much Isaac Asimov lately and tend to side with Hunan beings being gas molecules much more than individual actors with ability to control outcomes.
Technology rather than sacrifice will drive success.