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GE crops use most of the land because the produce most of the product. It nice that mid conversation we've changed the distinction in the conversation from GMO to the more inclusive GE tag when called out on faulty statistics in order to try and trip each other up. You are basically making the same argument antivaxers make when they say most covid cases are amongst the vaccinated now.

We are stacking traits so that we don't need to use the glyphosate, and other similar yet unmentioned pesticides that have not become public boogie men. Crops with the genes to produce natural pesticides are far superiors, add drawf genes that don't waste energy growing tall stocks, and drought resistant genes that allow them to bounce back from dry periods, finds seeds that germinate easily so that you don't have to turn all of the moisture and carbon out of the soil just to get the seed in there. Suddenly you are stacking up the traits we need to reduce land use. Which takes us back to the source of our conversation, worrying about solar panels taking up farmland is a drop in the bucket compared to the land we waste on BS ideas like "natural" farming.

Your claim that GE is eroding margins is a loose correlation at best, with many extenuating variables, like climate or trade policy. What you would need is to directly pair up changes in profitability between farms that have stayed up to date with current technologies and farms that have stay consistently organic within the same local regions, bench mark those changes against market prices. That way you would be able to see if those changes were a result of conditions outside of production method, or if they were due to market conditions like successfully capturing and overcharging a wealthy and uninformed corner of the market.

All things being equal if there was one environmental policy I would love to get behind, it would be rewilding. But I don't think that is even within the realm of idea space yet, especially if we cannot get past he antiGM / organic farm movements. The circles we go in to get nowhere are also a little funny. We'd be ok to grow organic if we only grow food crops because food crops are only using 20% of the arable land. Organic can only use natural fertilizer like cow ####. Where'd the nitrogen in that cow poop come from? that's right chemical fertilizers. So now we're still using the land to raise the cows, to get the chemical nitrogen fertilizer onto the ground in a more natural way.