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Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch
I think that TFA was ok, it was a basic reboot of ANH, and they weren't even subtle about it.
I just don't understand how they wouldn't have laid out the whole trilogy, a work book that directors would get the story beat on. Instead we got a mess of a second movie that completely ignored the first movie, and just wrecked any chance of a coherant storyline.
For its warts, the PT, had a coherent story and if you look at the major beats. Obiwan's ascension, Skywalkers fall, Palpatines rise, the end of the Jedi, was a cool idea. There were a lot of poor choices. Having Anakin as a 9 year old was one, the clumsy love story in AOTC was another. I still think they should have Harry Potter'd ROTS and made it two movies.
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I think they likely had a story for the whole trilogy, but Johnson chose to throw that out the window. Luke throwing the light sabre away was probably an inside joke about that.
My guess is that the overall storyline wasn't too far off from what we got. It was always the intention to have the Emperor return, after turning both Rey and Kylo to the dark side. When JJ Abrams talks about not having a plan, he means that the details weren't scripted yet on how to get to the end.
The original plan is actually not a horrible idea. It could have played out with Rey and Kylo joining forces and taking over the dark side by defeating Snoke together. Basically, giving into their anger and making the choice that Luke was unwilling to make. Then they find out they've been manipulated by the Emperor the whole time, and one of them turn back towards the light. This isn't all that much different than what we got, but it was all crammed into one movie.
It would have also been great if Kylo had to kill Rey at the end, who couldn't be convinced to make the right choice. That would have been a great plot twist.
Either way, I think it's likely that Abrahms would have botched the whole thing too. The way he portrayed the Emperor and the force powers in RoS made me think he didn't really understand Star Wars either.