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Originally Posted by GranteedEV
And I don't think we can say "Flames record with an average goalie would be worse" with any confidence.
Average goalies still make saves, you know.
The Flames are 5-1-3 with Markstrom in net, and 2-0 with Vladar in net.
They've scored a lot of goals all year, including getting off to a 3-0 lead over a really good Capitals team with Vladar in net.
You can theorize all you want, really.
But at the end of the day, you can't pretend Markstrom's less good games have been average. He's let in some goals that should be stopped. Those were all games where the Flames outplayed their opponent.
Why does Markstrom need to be annointed for five great games, as if his four subpar games never happened?
When you talk about a Vezina trophy, you'd talking about a guy like:
2021 MAF - .722 QS%
2020 Hellebuyck - .643 QS%
2019 Vasilevskiy - .642 QS%
2018 Rinne - .678
2017 Bobrovsky - .651
Winning the Vezina requires more than just shutouts when you're on. It requires that just about two out of every three starts is at least league-average.
It is ridiculous to be saying Markstrom has already been Vezina-calibre.
As Bingo noted - his GSAA is 7th in the league. That's freakin awesome! But a guy with 4 shutouts in 9 games should probably have a GSAA that's better than 7th in the league.
I would LOVE if Markstrom wins the Vezina, because it will mean he is playing better than he has these first nine games. He doesn't even need shutouts to do that.
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No it isn't.
If Markstrom finished the season on his current trajectory with 25+ shutouts and a SV% of .945 he's winning the Vezina without any conversation whatsoever.
He obviously won't, but of course he's been Vezina quality through the first 10.