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Old 11-05-2021, 09:06 PM   #221
Lanny_McDonald
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Originally Posted by opendoor View Post
I believe this US Department of Education site is the source for those numbers:

https://collegescorecard.ed.gov/

You can search by institution and field of study within each institution and it lists average earnings after 2 years. Some of the smaller institutions have tiny sample sizes and all of the data is only based on students who received federal grants/aid, so it's likely not totally accurate.
Bingo. Data like this is unlikely to be holistic, and only based on the self-reporting of graduates, which is never complete. So not accurate at all.

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Originally Posted by bizaro86 View Post
Amazing combination of being authoritative and wrong here. Obviously not FEPRA protected as anonymized aggregated data. Plus the fact they do release it. Never let facts get in the way of a good rant about Ted Cruz and the Koch brothers.

I downloaded the full file and its huge, but its all there. The post grad incomes are sliced and diced in the "most recent cohorts all data elements" file. You get mean, median, quartiles, etc.

Edited to add: Not sure about the link opendoor has above (I'm sure it works) but I found the file here: https://data.ed.gov/dataset/college-...e-9ba9411d7967

by clicking "All College Scorecard Data"


Thank you for saving me the time of pointing to this data source. Anyone can download the data files, but be warned, they are filled with null data and are heavily sanitized. They really are not good sources of data for obvious reasons.

As you were reviewing all of this "data", did you notice all of those "PrivacySuppressed" data points (over 19 million of them by Excel's count)? Just curious, considering it is the vast majority of the sheets in question. A lot of the data that would inform such a study, and actually provide context, is not sharable because of, you know, a certain federal law that protects against disclosure of student data, which is why it is "PrivacySuppressed." DOE has the data, but they are not allowed to release it, so trying to make general assumptions from this data is impossible without access to the complete data set. Which goes right back to the point of the response. Shoddy journalism and disinformation from a ideologically biased "think tank." And higher education is the problem, amiright?
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