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Old 11-04-2021, 02:38 PM   #819
GioforPM
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Originally Posted by Strange Brew View Post
You just rattled off some more elite players. Everyone has a few players they believe shouldn’t make it but the HHOF is the closest to a measuring stick that is widely recognized that I can think of. 25 and 39 weren’t exactly close calls either.
I suppose. I guess it depends on your definition of elite. I don't consider Gillies an elite player, nor Glenn Anderson.

I just consider "elite" a description of skill at a particular moment.

HOF is more accomplishment based than skill based. I think Newy made it based on rings with different teams. I think Gilmour made it based on Toronto.

In Newy's time in Calgary, he was nowhere near being in the handful of the best centres in the game, which is kind of how I view elite. His best year he was 22nd in scoring. Now TBF, he played when Gretzky/Lemieux/Yzerman/Hawerchuk/Messier/Sakic/Lindros/Oates/Lafontaine did.

ETA: My argument isn't that Gilmour and Newy weren't elite, BTW. It's that being in the HOF doesn't automatically make the player elite. It's not a debate ender.

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