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Originally Posted by gvitaly
Is Vladar a rental? he seems like a great find for a 3rd round pick. Zadorov and Pitlick might not have been worth the picks(yet), but we get to try how they fit, and convince them to stay if its a good fit.
Zadorov even though he's been terrible this year showed a lot of promise in his previous seasons... I was personally hoping he could take a step in his game. The gamble didn't pay off so you move on. Pitlick seems like a good fit on a line with Backlund, and I wouldn't be surprised if he signs a reasonable extension, in this case that is more than worth a 4th round pick.
As for being on the cusp of losing players for nothing. You realize that those players could only sign with the team from the end of July. That's only a bit over 3 months, and these deals take time. In addition, I'm pretty sure the management wanted to evaluate which players perform the best under Daryl. Most likely the Flames will keep 2 of Tkachuk, Gaudreau, and Mangiapane. One of them will be traded for assets.
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I’m sorry but I just have to bite on this obvious fishing attempt. Is this Brad or his dad?
Are the only burned 3rds and 4ths only this off season or is it over the entire body of work? Rentals are commonly understood to be at the trade deadline. Not one of the players that you cited was a deadline rental acquisition. I ‘d further argue that trading for UFA negotiation rights is another level of crazy.
Remember these trades? Forbort, Gustafson, fantenburg?
Contracts. Man oh man. Look, I don’t know if you have ever negotiated before but if you think that parties on both sides don’t talk to each other or are aware before the official sign by date then I don’t know what to say. I completely agree that players cannot sign officially before the date. Please explain how other teams are able to get signings done on the very first day? Ever written a post dated cheque? Exactly. But not the Flames.
Also, why would the Flames need to see how a player plays under a coach for even a season when multi year contracts long outlive any coach? If they play great, they drive up the price? If they play poorly, we hope that past glories get higher trade value? Of course, Treliving doesn’t trade expiring assets so moot point I guess.
Actually, here is a good trade by Brad. Rittich for a leafs 3rd. Expiring asset that we didn’t intend to re-sign. Want a bad one? TJ Brodie for nothing.
This is what I mean though; debating trade x or y, signing x or y, coach x or y, this season or last, it’s the entire body of work. Poor asset management and decisions that guide long term decisions like the lifespan of managers, not whether or not we got robbed by a referee or had a hot start to the season.