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Old 11-03-2021, 01:02 PM   #3735
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Eternals is the first Marvel movie I could see bombing, or at least as close as something coming from the Disney machine could come to bombing. Completely unknown characters to the general public, uninteresting casting, generic trailers, and now merely average reviews. I have zero interest in watching it as an MCU fan, and I don't think I'm alone. I probably will check it out once it hits Disney+ just to see how it ties in to the universe, but this will be the first MCU movie I don't make the trek to the theater for (aside from Black Widow, but that doesn't really count)
As someone who grew up on Marvel comics and really loves the MCU, I'm actually hoping that it bombs and the whole thing ends up dead and quickly removed from the MCU (in the seemingly inevitably approaching multiverse-collapsing big Avengers story if not sooner).

The Eternals are just a bad idea and a bunch of uninteresting characters. (Although obviously characters are the easiest thing to rewrite into something good.) Really almost all of this stuff, the cosmic side of Marvel stories, are varying levels of meh to terrible, and no I don't even think the ideas in them are that interesting.

I'm all for giving creators a chance to re-invent old ideas, but this one... The best version of the Eternals is very likely (going to remain) Neil Gaimans version, and even that version is mostly just "not terrible".

There's a reason most of it is poorly known and largely forgotten despite several of the best known creators in the field repeatedly trying to make them a thing for fifty years, and it's that

a) all this Chariots of the Gods crap began as cringy racist nonsense of white people explaining away the achievements of old non-white cultures with "actually they got help from the aliens" and it's really hard to make do anything good with that premise,
b) creation myths aren't really that interesting which is why they're typically short and vague instead of tons of detailed nonsense,
c) when it comes to superheroes, the successful ones already draw heavily from existing mythologies and cultural tropes, and re-explaining everything with an additional layer of made up mythology just makes everything more stupid and convoluted, and inevitably brings about tons of new continuity problems...

I could really go on.

I really wish the Eternals would just effing die. They only exist because Jack Kirby was really into Chariots of the Gods, and if you don't use them for that, which I think Marvel is smart enough to not do, well, they lose their only reason for existing.

...but since I'm a fanboy addict, I will still go see the movie in a theater. I just hope no one else does

/rant
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