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Originally Posted by PeteMoss
I'd rather get 15% than 0%. But I guess throwing a fit works too.
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It shows you have some and won't be walked all over. The centrist wing of the party completely stabbed the progressive wing of the party in the back on this.
Why would anyone take progressive opposition seriously after this if they know they can just offer crumbs and the progressives will just wilt because "something is better than nothing."
Furthermore, if you're a progressive or working class voter, why would you believe a single thing the Democrats promise you after this? Biden nailed the vaccine rollout and parts of the American recovery stuff, but most of those benefits have now expired, and there really hasn't been anything substantive passed since.
If you look ahead to 2022, you're basically banking on voters still being mad/scared of Trump and the GOP to maintain control of the House and Senate, and I just don't see that as a winning strategy. What can the Democrats point to so far to say they've accomplished that has made a tangible difference in the lives of working class people?
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And you can't do anything to Manchin. He's a West Virginia democrat. He can do whatever he wants. There is 0% chance the democrats could get anyone else elected in West Virginia. He's the 50th vote and you've got nothing to leverage against the guy.
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There are absolutely things you can do to put pressure on Manchin. Senators crave visibility (visibility = money), so start by taking him off various committees, etc., to remove that visibility. We both know McConnell would be absolutely ruthless at whipping the votes if the GOP were in power. It might not work, but at least you can say you've made an attempt.
From what I've been reading, Manchin tends to fall in line when he gets told to and it's time to vote. It's Sinema who's the bigger issue.