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Originally Posted by rubecube
The policies contained in the bill are supported by an overwhelming majority of Americans. Sinema has already come out of this looking horrible.
And this is exactly how the Democrats manufacture consent to get nothing substantive done. How much ground should progressives concede on this? They've already conceded 70%. If you truly believe progressives are bad guys here for fighting for climate change and policies that are popular with an overwhelming majority of Americans, you're being duped.
How are progressives to blame here? They've negotiated in good faith and been completely reasonable the entire time. The goal of Pelosi, Biden, etc., is to break the backs of progressives and make them kneel. If they're successful at doing so, you can basically seal the door on the working class voters voting D, and progressives will either likely become apathetic or one-issue voters.
Have you asked yourself why the MSM, including the liberal outlets, aren't bothering to report on what's in the bill?
Corporate Dems do not want this bill because they've had money flying in from their donors to persuade them to vote against it.
If the situation were reversed, you can bet your ass Pelosi, Schumer, and Biden would be whipping the hell out of opposition progressives. Why aren't they doing so with Sinema and Manchin?
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I'd rather get 15% than 0%. But I guess throwing a fit works too.
And you can't do anything to Manchin. He's a West Virginia democrat. He can do whatever he wants. There is 0% chance the democrats could get anyone else elected in West Virginia. He's the 50th vote and you've got nothing to leverage against the guy.