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Originally Posted by stemit14
I’ve suggested this before but have never been told if it could work or not… could a team not pull a Kucherov with eichel? If eichel is placed on LTIR by the sabres to start the season, and is then traded to a team, will that team even need cap space for him? Wouldn’t him being on LTIR already mean he would not count against the cap for any team that acquires him, provided they are a cap team? I’m always unclear about this.
If so, teams could circle back on eichel after a month into the season if they are playing really well and look like they will make the playoffs without eichel during the regular season. They could acquire eichel using only futures and just wait till playoffs to activate him from IR. Gives him 6 months to fully recover from surgery and the acquiring team takes less risk that their 1st round pick in the trade will be a high pick if the team gets off to a strong start to the season. Similar to Tampa, they would have to shed salary in the offseason but they would still have a loaded team for this year.
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From my understanding you are right. The team won't need to free up $10M in case of a trade(as long as he doesn't return during the season). I think Sureloss is a much better authority on the CBA than I am though.
An interesting thing happens when the team is not right against the cap. If the team sends some salary to Buffalo(lets say $3M), now they are $3M below the cap before Eichel goes on LTIR. This means they would only be able to exceed the cap by $7M, even if they try to add players later. That's why managers try to get as close to the cap as possible before placing a player on LTIR.
Also, once you are on LTIR you can't bank that cap space. It stays at a certain number you can exceed the cap, for relief purposes. If my memory doesn't betray me the Flames in 2019-20 were doing some cap gymnastics instead of placing Hamonic on LTIR after the fight with Gudbranson. They also didn't place Valimaki on LTIR right away, he was on IR for a third of the season.
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The Accruable Cap Space Limit, otherwise known as the ACSL, is a team’s new upper limit once they begin using the LTIR. It excludes the LTIR relief pools. This number is used to determine the amount a team can exceed the salary cap using the LTIR. The closer to the cap a team is before using the LTIR, the more relief they’ll get.
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