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Old 09-21-2021, 08:28 PM   #186
gvitaly
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Originally Posted by Jay Random View Post
Insult in place of argument duly noted.



You singled out ‘the Monahan line’, even though you don't know whether Monahan will be the 2nd or 3rd-line centre, or who any of his linemates will be. Nosirree, whichever line has Monahan on it is going to be the worst line defensively.

So you did, in fact, single out Monahan.
First of all it wasn't an insult, you just see what you want to see no matter how I try to explain it. I don't need to insult you as it will just take away from anything I am trying to say.

Yes, the line which has Monahan is the most likely to be the worst defensively among the top 3 lines. I only expect the 4th line to be used against the opposition's 4th line, so I don't account for them. The way I see it, the Flames currently have 3 centers for the top 3 lines. The centers are Lindholm, Backlund, and Monahan. Two are known to be very good two way players, one isn't. Even if you play Monahan with Mangiapane, and Coleman I would still expect the line to be weaker defensively than Lindholm's/Backlund's line because the center does a lot of the heavy lifting defensively.

Again I'm not saying Monahan is a bad player, or he is washed up. I am saying he is a significant downgrade defensively on either Backlund or Lindholm. That's why his line strikes me as a potential weak spot defensively.

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Can the regular season pick drop already? The bickering about the team and whether they will be good or not and the bickering around Monahan and whether he’s a has been (or even a never was) or is going to bounce back… it’s tiring and I just want to see results whatever they might be so we can have an indication of the direction we are headed.

I remain cautiously optimistic too that this year will be a surprise and the Flames will put forth a solid seasons effort but man it’s felt like eons for this season to get going.
Yeah, can't wait for puck drop. I am also not saying Monahan is washed up. I just got called out, so I tried to explain where I was coming from.

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Or, at this point, are you just tossing word salad to make it seem like unlimited pessimism is rational?
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