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Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch
Could be here could be in the Federal Government thread. US, UK and Australia announcing a defense and intelligence sharing group that Canada is not invited into, to deal with China.
The Trudeau government has taken no significant steps on Huawei and we probably haven't been seen as all that serious when it comes to defense and all that serious when it comes to the intelligence side of the game. New Zealand another 5 eyes member was left out as well.
Basically there will be information on China shared in this group that won't be shared with us.
Its what happens when your not seen as reliable by your allies, they build a new tree house and tell you to get lost.
https://www.politico.com/news/2021/0...sharing-511877
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I dunno, I think you're reading a lot more into this announcement than what I have read. To me, this is nothing more than the USA sinking its hooks ever more into Australia so as to prepare for what looks like inevitable conflict with China.
Nuclear subs in of themselves are no big deal; they're just a platform. Any conventional weapons Australia would place on the subs would be (I assume, given the West's current technology arc) sub-sonic weapons that have easily been dispatched in the past three years by integrated and networked AD systems in Syria. So, nuclear subs with conventional sub-sonic weapons offer no leverage against the Chinese at this time. However, China will likely turn to Russia for assistance in improving their ASW capabilities.
The poor Aussies. They are probably weeping at the very idea of their dopey politicians continuing to screw up the submarine file. What started out as a $25B project, ballooned to $40B, then $50B and now $90B. Now they're going to dump it and start all over again for a platform they do not need.
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France is understandably upset. "This brutal, unilateral and unpredictable decision reminds me a lot of what Mr Trump used to do," Foreign Minister Jean-Yves Le Drian told franceinfo radio. "I am angry and bitter. This isn't done between allies."
"It's a stab in the back. We created a relationship of trust with Australia and that trust has been broken," Le Drian said.