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Old 09-07-2021, 11:03 PM   #5876
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Originally Posted by flames_fan_down_under View Post

But then you have the Shea Hillenbrands, Frank Thomas' and Roger Clemen's who probably won't say many nice things about T.O.
Did Clemens hate the city, or did he hate the ownership? From what I remember he was a bit peeved that they didn't bring back Canseco after he had a decent season as the Jays DH. Although as it turns out that likely had more to do with Canseco's juicing skills than anything.

But you look at Thomas and Clemens and those were two Free Agents who did sign with the team. So when they've been willing to spend they have landed players.

Rogers get's a lot of flack for not spending more to keep that 2015 era team together. But I think that Atkins and Shapiro made the right decisions to move on from Joey Bats and EE who were commanding big dollars given how the rest of the system looked at the time. Outside of them and Donaldson there was little else and Stroman is one of the few guys from that team still in the league pitching today. But this time they have a lot more of a home grown core of players, so I think Rogers will be a bit more willing to put money into payroll to try and be a better team since the likes of Vladdy and Bo still have many productive years in front of them, and the supplementary guys like Hernandez, Gurriel, and now Kirk are still youngish too. Plus if Biggio get's back to healthy and can be a versatile bat who can post a 800 OPS like he did the previous two seasons that could be 4 above average home grown guys to back those two and they have Springer for a few more years. So this group is built for a much longer window to be be trying to win.
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