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Originally Posted by PepsiFree
You’re missing the point, and I think a lot of people miss the point.
Yes, it’s great to feel that little extra bit safer by having no unvaccinated people around. Sure, wonderful. But restrictions are a means of stopping or limiting a rise in hospitalisations. The more people in hospital, the more stress put on the health care system. A stressed health care system leads to cancelled and delayed surgeries, delayed appointments, reduced access for everyone, etc. Put 1000 vaccinated people in a room, introduce Delta, and you’ve probably got a few breakthrough cases. Put 600 vaccinated people in a room with 400 unvaccinated and do the same thing, and cases are going to be a LOT higher. Sure, it’s great that 600 are vaccinated. But Delta doesn’t really give a #### when there’s 400 unvaccinated in the room ready for infection.
So, yes, being selfish about it, it can seem strange. But your choices are restrictions for everyone, or restrictions for the vaccinated. It’s not to make it safer for YOU, that’s what the vaccine is for. It’s to make it safer for EVERYONE. We’ve just been through a year of this. The only difference is now you’re vaccinated, which means you shouldn’t really have to be restricted… but you’re saying you want the restrictions?
That’s what I don’t get. Restrictions aren’t for fun. They’re to protect the health care system. The vaccinated are being excluded because they’re low risk. And people are seriously advocating being restricted WITH the unvaccinated because it would be “unfair”? Have at it.
Restrictions are coming either way. As a vaccinated person, I’m more than happy to avoid them. You want to sit at home with the unvaccinated? Volunteer to do so.
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In your example, you forgot the time interval. eg. 1000 vaccinated people in a room for 8 hours, 500 will get covid. 1000 unvaccinated people in a room for 1 hour, 500 will get covid. This isn't research that would ever be done, so only anecdotal evidence could be used, but time is a driving factor, which is why I wear a mask if I'm going into an uncontrolled situation.
Also you made me think about masking in the second part of your post. Remember at the beginning of covid, when the message was to protect other people by wearing a mask, and nobody did it? It was only after the messaging change to 'protect yourself by wearing a mask' that people changed their behavior and started wearing them.
100% vaccinations are to protect the health care system. That has been the goal of every policy that we have seen during covid. Getting a vaccination is to protect yourself and the health care system. Since the arrival of Delta, the martyrdom argument is going to fall on deaf ears to anyone that is anti-vaxx or vaccine hesitant. It should stop being used. As with the masking message, this message should be about self preservation.