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Old 08-23-2021, 09:19 AM   #998
Royle9
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How much safer am I because some pandering politician tells me I can’t go to a stamps game with 12,000 people at it or a Flames game.

I’m betting about as close to zero as you can get.

My point is this is becoming more about political posturing than really doing any good or making the general population safer. My problem and the point I’m trying to make is that erosion of rights generally starts out like this. You need some sort of ticket, or form, or app on your phone to go to an event that you might go to once or twice a year and could live with not going to.

People get used to that so they start transferring the requirement to things that you are required to do frequently like buying groceries or earning a paycheck. With the excuse being well you did it for this so you can do it for that.

Where does it stop? What are the benchmarks where the requirements stop? Or is all of this a permanent change? If there were benchmarks or deadlines I think most of the opposition would disappear. But there really aren’t.

I’m vaccinated and to be honest I got vaccinated because I figured governments would start doing this. Restricting personal rights to move about and be free to do what you want. Not because I felt unsafe or that my life or my family’s lives were at risk.

Whether people want to get vaccinated or not should be up to them. It looks like the majority of people have decided it’s a good idea and have done it. But if someone doesn’t want to they shouldn’t be forced to live as a secondary citizen. It’s not against the law to oppose getting vaccinated.

This topic is like debating abortion. It goes on and on and there are distinct sides who dig their heels in. Hovering above the issue and boiling it down to the base I think the vaccine discussion doesn’t really matter as much to me as the amount of control elected officials have had over our lives for the last year and a half. Because i still feel I should be able to make decisions effecting my well being and in general most elected officials are under qualified to make decisions of this magnitude.

Basically I don’t need an idiot to tell me what to do. I’m able to guage risk and make decisions based on that risk. But I guess some people need that in their lives?
The bolded about sums it up for me.

I got vaccinated because I want keep my family safe and protect those who are vulnerable, if that helps save someone's life then I feel I've done my part.

You're safer knowing that the person sitting literally within 2 inches of you at the stamps game is fully vaccinated meaning the chances of you contracting the virus is extremely slim. This means the next person you come into contact with is also safe, and so on and so on. That's how you eliminate the spread of the virus.

If the city puts in limitations on the 20% who choose NOT to get the vaccine then in my mind its protecting the majority. It's not like they are putting you in some sort of prison, they are simply restricting your access to a mass public gathering where you being unvaccinated is a determent to the rest of the people.

You're confusing getting a vaccine with an "idiot telling you what to do".
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