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Old 08-12-2021, 10:21 AM   #328
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Originally Posted by Thor View Post
Let's not forget this virus is not just about survival rate, the damage this virus does to a very significant % of those who survive it includes all kinds of long-term health issues, lungs, heart, etc..

This is not some unstudied issue either, we first started looking at covid variants near 2000, the vaccine itself is based on research from the mid 0's and has lots of studies behind it already.

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These vaccines and what's in them are well studied, well understood and we have used them on hundreds of millions at this point, so any risk or side effects are already well known, and they are minuscule. The risk of harm from the virus to people, death being the worst, complications after contracting it are very serious and it's not just about individual choice since it's a pandemic, a public health crisis. We are trying to save lives, save the health of people, and it is a small ask to get a jab with an incredibly safe vaccine to protect yourself and your loved ones and those who can't get the vaccines.
And in a year if this vaccine starts causing harm to those who took it and weighs down our amazing healthcare system worse than the symptoms of covid itself did, then what?
When have we ever released a vaccine onto the population after 6 months of human trials? One that is mRNA based that uses a spike protein that is like no other vaccine ever used on the human population? Yes it has been used by millions at this point. It already has more negative side effects than all other vaccines combined in the last 20 years like myocarditis, Bell’s palsy, paralysis, rashes, and death. And we won’t know the long term effects for years.
Again anyone that feels comfortable with it and thinks the benefits outweigh the risks, great, feel free and get your chance at that dirty million. Anyone who isn't opposed of it forever but feels there needs to be more that 6 months of data before being released onto the population, great don’t take it.
But to say we know with certainty that there won’t be long term effects from the rushed vaccine that are worse for our healthcare system is unknown.
I’ve had the virus, my wife had the virus bad, my sisters whole family had the virus. We have natural immunity. In our mind it is not something to fear. I know people who have had it had it affect them more, even one fella that passed from it. Unfortunately truth is that those people had underlying issues where any respiratory illness like the flu or pneumonia would have been very hard on them. The fella I knew that passed was in his 60’s but drank, smoked, and did hard drugs a good portion of his life. Not saying he deserved to pass on, just that he was harder on his body than most and that he would have had a harder time fighting off any illness.
At this point if so many are already vaccinated(between 70-75 percent I believe) and likely another 10-15 percent of unvaccinated that would have natural immunity, that only leaves 10 percent of Albertans unprotected in accordance to the masses. Remember though that those 10 percent still have an immune system and the main treatment for covid all along was stay home, drink chicken noodle soup, and isolate for 14 days and build natural immunity then continue on with life.
Why are the vaccinated so scared of those 10 percent at a hockey game with them? Do you not trust the vaccine to protect you? And if not don’t you think they should have done a better job of making a vaccine that stopped you from getting it and spreading it, not just making the symptoms less.
All in all I still think it is a slippery slope to start segregating a population on medical choices. Especially one that has been so politicized and offered so much debate and flip flopping from medical professionals and political leaders who have seen both sides.
Remember those images that came out early on fromChina that showed people lying dead in the street from this? Did that actually happen or was that to promote fear in the masses?
I very much hope I am wrong but what if this was the plan from the start for governments and elites to gain control over populations? To see who listens and who doesn’t and reward those who are controlled and punish those who aren’t.
If that’s the case or not I hope everyone remembers how to treat others and that we are all human regardless of vaccination status.
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