[Jay Random]

Originally Posted by Boreal

What basic common understanding do you not grasp that it is a privilege to enter any privately owned operation it isn’t your right.

I repeat, freedom of movement is a basic human right. We are talking about the government passing laws requiring people to carry a vaccination passport in order to enter private places.

Privilege breeds entitlement. You’re entitled, I get it.

You know absolute ####-all about me.

The government is the only entity that can effectively organize operations that private businesses are requesting.

All private businesses are requesting this? I happen to know that's not true. But the government will be applying the law to all private businesses and all citizens, whether they like it or not.

It won’t be perfect and if they don’t do it trying to fill the gap privately will be a mess and a calamity.

The Gulag Archipelago was a calamity. The COVID pandemic, by comparison, pales to an inconvenience. Setting up the laws to recreate the former is not a valid means of mitigating the latter. Sometimes the cure is much worse than the disease.

Freedom of movement does not mean you can just walk into anyone’s property.
Because you can’t walk into any privately owned operation also doesn’t mean you have to stay at home.

If you are forbidden to enter any place of business or any public building without a vaccine passport, your freedom of movement is gone. All it takes is for the government to revoke your passport, or refuse to issue you one, and you are under effective house arrest.

Freedom of association doesn’t mean you get to associate wherever you please.
It also doesn’t mean you can’t associate in private spaces.

If there is nowhere that you are allowed to associate, then you do not have freedom of association.

No state agency is trampling on these mythical rights of yours, vaccine passport or otherwise. They don’t exist. Maybe try a new tinfoil hat.

I told you to look up ‘social credit China’ and ‘Soviet internal passport’. You obviously did not.

Tens of millions of Chinese have been denied the ‘privilege’ of buying train, plane, or mass transit tickets because the government bureaux that keep their (secret) ‘social credit’ scores have blacklisted them. If you are blacklisted, you have no legal recourse.

Tens of millions of Soviet citizens were forbidden to travel at all for decades, because you were not permitted to travel without an internal passport and the officials responsible refused to issue such passports to whole classes of people.

But thanks for attempting to denigrate my family and work while we keep putting out our efforts on the front lines of Covid to keep the ignorant, entitled, and privileged alive.

I don't know a damned thing about your family or your work and don't pretend to. (Whereas you pretend to know everything there is to know about me and mine. Funny, that.) And you know what? If the price of your alleged help is to be called ‘ignorant, entitled, and privileged’, I don't want it. Quit for all I care.

Quite Nobel. Why don’t you name the “state agencies” on “your list.”

Any state agency is capable of oppressing people if the laws are written to allow it – or if the officials of that agency are allowed to break the law without punishment. Both these things are depressingly common in human history, and you do not have to look far to find examples even today.