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Originally Posted by Jay Random
The trouble is, I have been studying the data and — there aren't any. Estimates of the effectiveness and duration of vaccines are all over the place. Estimates of the effectiveness and duration of natural immunity after being infected are all over the place. Estimates of the degree to which any immunity protects you from new variants are – well, they're not all over the place because people are generally not dumb enough to commit to making WAGs on that question.
Here's a number for you. Suppose you were vaccinated (say) nine months ago, or alternatively, were infected with COVID at that time and recovered. How much immunity do you have now against the current variants? The error bar starts at zero. It ends somewhere short of 100 percent, but how far short, no two experts agree.
When my claim is that there are no reliable data, it is just plain obtuse to expect me to provide reliable data for that claim.
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If your claim is that there is no reliable data, or that there “aren’t any data,” then you can meet the threshold by proving your credentials that allow you to make those claims with any notion of authority whatsoever.
So buck up or shut up. Let’s see your credentials. I seem to be able to find data that you say doesn’t exist and I seem to be able to track results from studies that seem less “all over the place” and more practical and expected given the nature, location, and variables of the studies. But you’re telling me what I’m seeing is wrong or isn’t reliable, so show your credentials.
Put them up, and I’ll take what you say as an expert opinion.