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Old 08-11-2021, 02:53 PM   #211
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No one in this discussion probably even knew that this happened and why would they, because nobody actually gives a s*** about this one person out of 11,000. Not even the transphobes, because real people don't fit into their agenda.
Well, also no one really cares about Olympic weightlifting unless there's some tangentially related thing to get mad about involved. Then apparently it's the end of the world.
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The issue obviously isn't really about competition fairness at all, because any sane person knows that there's no way a man would go through the necessary hormone treatments just to transition into female sports, so this isn't going to become some major issue in sports in general. (You gotta get the hormone treatments because otherwise your testosterone levels wouldn't be at acceptable levels for you to compete.)
Way to bury the lede...

Look, I cannot stress enough how much I do not care that this happened. But your argument is terrible. The suggestion isn't that someone deliberately transitioned so that they could win a medal at the Olympics. The suggestion is that the person transitioned, and having done so, had an unfair advantage. I mean, no one was suggesting that Oscar Pistorius (pre-murderous rampage) had his feet amputated so that he could run faster, but the prosthetics he had actually did allow him to run faster, so he couldn't compete against non-blade runners.

In this case, it seems like the best argument in favour of transgender athletes is what you said at the end of the paragraph - there are requirements for testosterone levels, and that meeting these requirements means that transgender athletes do not have any advantage over cisgendered ones. Is that true in all sports? I'm not sure, but I wouldn't be surprised if it's close enough that it's not worth worrying about. No one seemed to want to disqualify Phelps because he happened to be born with size 14 feet and a 6'7" wingspan.
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Also, sports are not fair. The whole point of sports is that they're not fair, but that the best person wins.
... This also seems like a pretty terrible argument. Sports are definitely supposed to be fair. That's why everyone got mad at Tim Peel and we bitched about NHL officiating and game management for thousands of posts.
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