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Old 08-11-2021, 02:06 PM   #217
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Originally Posted by iggy_oi View Post
Economic mobility is about more than just keeping up with the Joneses, if people can only afford the basics and jobs don’t provide an opportunity to improve your situation beyond buying trinkets I’m not sure how we’re any better off with UBI. Just because you give someone enough money to pay for their rent, food, etc doesn’t mean they’re going to spend it on that.
I'm starting to think you're being deliberately obtuse.

Do you think a higher income through increased minimum wage provides economic mobility? So why would a higher income through UBI not do the same?

You're the one who suggested that "moving the start line" would offset economic mobility gains, implying that you define it as winning a competition. You're arguing against yourself. I define it as opportunity. And if you have the ability to free up your own time, it becomes far easier to invest your time in your education or your ideas. That's why UBI is great for economic mobility.

A worker who needs a job has far less leverage than one who doesn't. A group of such workers has less leverage than a group who have access to UBI. An individual with UBI might even have more leverage than a group without it.

Of all the the people on this site, you should be one of UBI's strongest supporters, unless you're the just kind of union shill who only cares about making monopolistic gains that are taken from consumers.
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