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Old 08-11-2021, 08:13 AM   #428
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Originally Posted by Oil Stain View Post
Here's the beef I have with XGA/60...

Lets take the last three years of Chris Tanev. I filtered out D-men who played less than 700 ES minutes btw.

Tanev's ranking in xGA/60:

20/21- 1st out of 129 D-men.
19/20- 137th out of 164
18/19- 72nd out 176

In the span of three seasons Tanev went from middle of the pack, to one of the worst, to the best in the league.

How do you take useful information about a player's ability out of something like that?

I mean clearly Tanev didn't play at a seventh defender ability in 19/20, and then become the best shutdown defenceman in the league in 20/21, so what is XGA/60 actually measuring?
You don't have to like xGA ... honestly I think it's a stat that will continue to evolve (definitions, weightings etc changing)

But it's hard to look past basic shot metrics and counting. There isn't anything wrong with a "model" that says you'd like your defenseman not to be at the bottom of the pile for giving up shots on goal (or shot attempts, or scoring chances).

Who you play with is part of it.

I think some felt that Tanev had his wheels come off, but it could be that his numbers were hurt carrying Hughes. I guess this year will help solve some of that.
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