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Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague
It does both, though. See the explanation above - WAR factors in QOC and QOT, so those are just broken out on the card for further detail about how the player is deployed.
Well, Tanev also used to be very good at the things he was good at last year in Calgary, but had been trending downward for a few years. So the change was probably partly a matter of systems, partly a matter of random variance in a weird covid year, and partly a matter of being re-energized after joining a new team for the first time since he entered the league. That can't really be measured; look at who ROR became when he left Buffalo. But ultimately I wouldn't be very surprised to see Tanev settle in to a spot somewhere between where he was in his last year in Van and what he did last year (which was right around "best defensive defenceman in the league" territory and shouldn't be expected to happen again).
Except they can and do account for it. That's been true for years and as a result those adjustments have been refined over that time using thousands of hours of on-ice data to improve accuracy. I guess you're saying they don't account for it convincingly enough to satisfy you, but can you explain your justification for that, beyond "I'm not convinced"?
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You are missing the point. Two players, on different teams, will not ever be put in the same situation. Accounting for QOC still does not put them in the same situation. Player on Team A plays against top competition. Player on Team B plays against top competition. Those are not the same things. If Team A is better at defending against top competition, that will positively influence each player's numbers on Team A - even after accounting for it.
It is a team game, and you simply cannot isolate player performance like that.
As for the bold regarding Tanev and ROR, you are making my point. Situations change, and player performance changes with it. As you say, these things can't be measured. Yet, fans see these stats and conclude that this player is better than that player at X.
And it isn't just a case of "I'm not convinced", you can do better than that.