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Originally Posted by Royle9
See I think this would be a mistake, I'm all for giving up the assets for Eichel as he by all accounts would easily become a franchise player here for a long time and fits the bill as a RHS C with elite skill.
However I can't justify giving up any sort of similar assets as the 3rd wheel for NYR for an aging Zibanejad who's due for a big raise (9M+ by today's standards) who really isn't much of an improvement over some of our own guys who people here would love to get rid of in Monahan. I'd argue Monahan especially at his current value is worth far more for the money.
Stat's wise he's arguably better as well as sad as that may seem.
So if we're not going after the big fish in Eichel, I sure hope were not going to give up similar assets for the "next" option in Mika... Sweedish Mafia and all.
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I don't understand this Monahan equal or better than Zibanajed argument.
MZ has averaged a little over a point per game over the past 3 season while Monahan has averaged just under 0.80 points per game. Monahan is also trending down and is injury prone.
Monahan has one more year on his contract than MZ, but if the downward trend continues, you probably don't even want that extra year at $6.375 million. Do we really want to extend Monahan beyond his current contract with the way he's been trending?
I see both players as short term assets.
Back to the production, is the argument that Monahan is better because he is better defensively? Are there stats to support this because for a few years, he's been lambasted for not being good enough in his own end.
Is the argument that MZ has had the benefit of playing with Panarin and better players? Monahan hasn't exactly been playing with bottom six chumps. He's been playing with one of the best playmakers in the game and his production has still been declining.
Posters on here are saying MZ doesn't drive play, does Monahan? MZ's highlight package shows he's a good skater with size and shooting ability. He can shoot just as well as Monahan and skates much better and is just as big.
I feel like the Monahan supporters ignore the past two seasons and only look at what happened prior. NHL GM's look at the current trend of the player and Monahan has been trending down for two seasons. I'm not saying he can't get back to his production from before, but he's a big risk to any team acquiring him. If the rumours are true that the Flames have been shopping Monahan for 2 years and there still isn't a deal, that tells you everything about what the league thinks of him.
I mean put yourself in a non-Flames fan perspective, would you want your team to acquire a guy who has had two years of declining production, appears to be injury prone, is recovering from an injury now, is a poor skater, and makes $6.35 million for two more seasons? Oh and, maybe his great past production is tied to playing with an elite playmaker who seems to be doing just fine without him?