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Old 07-31-2021, 04:31 PM   #1873
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Have you seen NYR’s offer? I mean I keep seeing you post the narrative that Calgary can’t even touch what some of these other teams are presenting but Monahan + Dube + 1 of Zary/Pelletier + 1st is more than a competitive offer than what we’ve seen reportedly offered by NYR and Vegas. Not sure if LA or Anaheim have had reported offers out there yet but to say the Flames basically have no skin in the game because of what we can offer is way off base. The Flames have more than a fair offer to present and I hope they do so.

Also the argument that ANA and LA’s 1st next year will be higher than the flames is actually something that works into the Flames favour; LA and ANA still need to be committed to their current rebuilds and now is not the time to be spending young assets on a piece to push them over the top which is precisely where the Flames are at right now. Honestly from my perspective bias aside my opinion is the Flames are a perfect suitor and can offer a competitive package for Eichel more so than any other team rumoured to be in on the sweepstakes.
In terms of assets no Calgary cannot match what other teams CAN offer. Who knows what they actually will offer, but these are likely the assets BUFFALO would definitely prefer. Calgary has no high end prospects to offer that other teams can. If you're trading one of the top players in the game then those are the assets you're likely targeting. But as I already mentioned in my post Buffalo's asking price may be too high for these teams which may allow Calgary to be in the running. I never said Calgary has no skin in the game.

And you basically just proved my point. Anaheim and LA will likely have much higher 1st round picks so why would Buffalo want Calgary's 1st before Anaheim or LA's? I personally think those teams should just gradually continue their rebuilds, but that doesn't change the fact that they have more attractive assets that Buffalo would prefer.

Calgary has no top prospect to offer. They most likely don't have a top 5-10 pick. Their top player to trade Tkachuk has very limited control. These are just facts. I'm not saying Calgary has no shot at Eichel because I for one really hope it happens, but the only way I see Tre landing Eichel is if basically every other team backs out or isn't willing to part with some of their top assets. At which time if I was Buffalo I'd wait because...

Monahan
Dube
Pelletier
1st

This is a horrendous package if I'm Buffalo. If Treliving could pull this off I would be over the moon. Monahan is being run out of town here. Just had by far the worst season of his career and only has 2 years left until UFA. Dube is a 3rd liner. Pelletier has proven nothing yet and doesn't project to be a top line player. The 1st could easily be 15-20 range. Buffalo could easily walk away with next to nothing with that package for a top player in the league.

I think the Flames 100% have a shot at Eichel but I'd be shocked if that's the package to get him. That would be an absolute fleecing.

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