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Originally Posted by dino7c
The good deals.often happen after the bad ones... Vancouver and Edmonton can make the bad ones. Oilers bent over backwards to get Chicago the player they wanted. Chicago the conference rival that knocked them out last season.
Vancouver had a division rival with no first rounder and a contract they were dying to move and gave them both.
I'll take the blue balls for now thanks
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Yeah, listening to 31 Thoughts it certainly sounds like Vancouver's trade is one made out of desperation by Benning. They "need" to be better this year.
Edmonton's trade was just Holland fully exposing himself as an "old" hockey mind. He can't build a team (two 2nds for 9 games of Athanasiou?). His entire run as Oilers GM has been brutal. This summer was supposed to be the first real time he was "free" of his predecessor's stupidity...and well, look at what he did.
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Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy
Yep for sure. It's a risk acquiring him and that's why I don't think it's crazy for any team that acquires him to ask for lottery protection on any 1st rounders they may include in the package.
Especially with Wright/Michkov/Bedard being in those next two drafts.
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If you're worried about having to lottery protect your pick, you shouldn't be trading it. If Tree is worried about that, then he should already be rebuilding.
I would be happy to see the Flames go all-in on Eichel and this team. '22 1st and '23 1st (both unprotected) as the main pieces going to Buffalo? Absolutely, I'm in. Follow that deal up by extending Johnny, and lock and load. You've got yourself set for the next 2-4 years to compete - and if you don't win it all, you re-asses and potentially burn it down then.
To Buffalo: '22 1st, '23 1st, '22 2nd, '22 2nd
To Calgary: Jack Eichel
Boom. There's your big play. No protection on any of the picks. The next two years almost fully leveraged in one trade for an elite top-10 centre that then allows the rest of the roster to be slotted nicely, while also giving us enough centre depth to overcome injuries down the middle should they show up.
Mangiapane - Eichel - Tkachuk --> Power line
Gaudreau - Monahan - Lindholm --> Offensive line
Dube - Backlund - Pitlick --> Shutdown line
Lucic - Ruzicka - Cheap UFA Forward --> Smash 'em line
Ritchie
Hanifin - Tanev --> Heavy lifters
Valimaki - Andersson --> Lots of pressure on the youngsters
Edler (1 year at a time) - Kylington --> Stability and speed
Mackey
Markstrom --> goalie supreme
Raanta --> surprisingly good goalie no one seems to be talking about that could be had for cheap this summer
All of that being tied together by Darryl Sutter.
Cap becomes perhaps a bit difficult to manage in '22/'23 (unless Lucic goes to LTIRetirement), but it's still manageable. We'd also still have Pelletier, Zary, Coronato, Heineman, Phillips, Gawdin all knocking on the door for spots as we move forward if we need to trade off someone like Backlund for cap reasons.
Alternatively? If you can't acquire Eichel? Burn it down now, starting with trading Johnny prior to his NTC kicking in. We have a lot of pieces to trade for a giddy fortune over the next 24 months in Tkachuk, Gaudreau, Monahan, Backlund, Tanev, Hanifin, Lindholm, and Andersson.
I think the reason why we haven't seen any notable change as of yet is because Tree is on Eichel and that's his only focus right now. He could very well be a piece that defines whether we compete or rip it down and build anew.