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Old 07-25-2021, 04:54 PM   #4328
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Originally Posted by AustinL_NHL View Post
Been enjoying the last few pages but had to step in reading these two posters, as it's actually funny how off they are with their posts.



How can you possibly think a GM who was only on the job for 7 weeks had complete control over the draft? The scouting team literally builds prospect profiles over the course of multiple years based on the drafting philosophy of the people in charge. You think Treliving came in, said "Scrap all the work you've done over the last year or two and start over. We're doing this my way."? Yea, ok.

It very likely was Button or a regional scout, but that's because they were building their prospect rankings/profiles based on the philosophy set by the man in charge. I can guarantee you that Treliving didn't come in and change the drafting philosophy in his first 7 weeks. That would've been a disaster.

Hell, even if you want to blame him for the 2014 draft, go ahead. The results since then have been tremendous based on the value the Flames have extracted based on their draft slots.



I mean, considering the majority of draft models have the Flames ranked right near the top in terms of the value they've been able to extract from their draft picks based on their draft slots (especially since Treliving took over), I guess that means Craig was an excellent GM?

Hate on Tod all you want, but the statistics show that the Flames have been an excellent drafting team with him in charge the last half decade or so. Absolutely no idea how you can argue the Flames have been a poor drafting team, when they've graduated 7 players from Treliving's first 3 full drafts (2015-17), including 5 players outside of the 1st round.

It's hard to ask for much better draft pick value then what the Flames have done under Treliving. There's been some misses like with every other team, but they've graduated prospects at a pretty rapid pace, and quality players at that.

Not to mention in the few years since then, most prospect models and micro-data charts have loved the majority of Flames selections

Find me 20 teams that have been better than the Flames at finding value based on draft slots in that time frame if you think Tod is so bad. Better yet, find me 10. Hell, find me 5 teams.

Hint: you won't
Ya, I actually quite like our scouting staff. Because of the last couple of years, I’m actually feeling quite confident in their drafting. Quite the contrast to a few years ago ( before Treliving).
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