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Originally Posted by Bingo
I don't think the 2018 to 2020 drafts have been settled for any teams.
And the 2017 draft has Valimaki in 20th spot for games played despite missing an entire year and a half. Only 17 players have played 100 games so this isn't a settled draft at all.
I like the trends for 2017 and on
And I like the 2016 and 2015 drafts a lot ... which are the only two that are truly settled (or nearing settled).
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Yes, the 2018-present drafts have of course not been settled, which is why I didn't include them. I only included Ruzicka for the 2017 class because he is looking like he might be breaking-into the NHL, but until he does, we can't give him credit. As for Valimaki - that's a 1st round pick, and I didn't include any 1st round picks for any drafts, as your argument was 'beyond the 1st round'. I personally like the Valimaki pick as well, and I think it was shrewd of Treliving (or shrewd of Treliving to allow Button) to pick Valimaki over Liljgren, for instance. However, 1st round picks was not part of the initial argument.
My point is:
Do I think that and agree with the statement: "The Flames have drafted well under Treliving." Absolutely I do. I consider the Flames a top 10 drafting organization, especially given the number of picks and the relative spots that they pick in.
However, I do disagree with the statement that: "The Flames are a better drafting team outside the 1st round than they have ever been in the last 20 years". I think they have been 'just as good' - I am glad that Treliving didn't have a negative impact on that, but I can't say he has had a positive impact given the overall results, though some of that is 'yet to be determined'.