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Old 07-22-2021, 01:39 PM   #274
Jore
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Originally Posted by PepsiFree View Post
Since July 1, 2017, Treliving has traded 9 picks: 1, 1, 3, 4, 4, 4, 4, 6, 7

Since July 1, 2017, Treliving has acquired 9 picks: 1, 1, 2, 3, 3, 3, 3, 4, 4

Between 2014 (when he was hired) and June 30, 2017, Treliving traded 8 picks: 1, 2, 2, 2, 3, 3, 3, 6

Between 2014 and June 30, 2017, Treliving acquired 11 picks: 2, 2, 2, 2, 3, 3, 4, 4, 5, 6, 7

He hasn't run a deficit over the last 4 years, nor did he in the 3 years before that. Over the last 4 years he's added an additional 4 picks in the top three rounds and lost 4 picks in the last four rounds. Previous to that, he added an additional 4 picks in the last four rounds while losing one pick in the first three rounds (which was a 1st).

This includes this most recent trade, and does not include trades where the initial pick traded had conditions that went unmet resulting in no draft pick changing hands.

This deficiency myth is just that. Over his entire tenure, Treliving has done the following:

1st round -1
2nd round +2
3rd round +2
4th round =
5th round +1
6th round -1
7th round =
Except there's more than 2 teams in the league and "deficiency" and "surplus" only make sense relative to what the other teams are doing.

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Led by Treliving, the Flames have had fewer draft picks (50) than all but five teams since 2014.

In that same time span, Calgary has also had fewer first-round picks than every team except Pittsburgh, Tampa Bay, and Washington. The major difference, of course, is that those teams have leveraged that draft capital into sustained playoff success and Stanley Cups.
https://www.tsn.ca/seven-years-into-...cess-1.1631065

Adjusted for the value of the picks it doesn't look much better for the Flames since 2012, when the Flames were supposed to have gone through a rebuild (from Dom at the Athletic):



I don't care about this trade that much but we at least should have the facts right, and the facts are that the Flames have leveraged the future for at least a decade now.
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