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Originally Posted by schteve_d
This pretty much sums up why I started the thread the other day asking if we as a fanbase could live with blowing it up and embracing a true rebuild. We have sucked for a long, long time. It is no longer interesting to me. Even I'm surprised with how much we've sucked now that it's laid out here!
I need something else from this team.
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The problem I have with this reasoning is what is a "true rebuild". I do want the flames to win even if they have to suck but I'm not sure what a true rebuild is. According to some fans the Flames are horribly managed so aren't we on the path to a "true rebuild" at this point? Do you guys want management to say we are not going to try to win for the next three years because that's what it sounds like some want?
As pointed out previously:
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Originally Posted by getbak
Yup.
People talk about Tampa "rebuilding" the right way, but let's remember that they had Lecavalier and St. Louis on their roster throughout the entire stretch where they got Stamkos, Hedman, and Drouin as top-3 picks. The season where they drafted Stamkos, they started the year with Lecavalier, St. Louis, and Richards making nearly 40% of the available cap between the 3 of them. That was not a team whose goal was to tank. They badly misjudged things coming out of the lockout and overpaid their top forwards, and they did so before people figured out the various ways to tweak contracts to reduce the cap hit.
As bad as Chicago and Pittsburgh were, they still needed lottery luck to build their championship teams. The Pens would have still been a solid team without Crosby, but he certainly put them over the top. If the Hawks don't win the lottery in 2007, they're likely drafting Gagner or Voracek at 5th overall. In 2006, Toews wasn't guaranteed to be there at 3, nor was he guaranteed to be Chicago's pick at 3. That year had a very strong top-end. Do they win 3 Cups with Voracek and Kessel instead of Kane and Toews?
The only team that has really had success with a dedicated sell-off and rebuild was the Capitals... and even then, it took 14 years before they finally won the Cup (although, they did get a couple of President's Trophies along the way and were a perennial playoff team).
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