[Jay Random]

Originally Posted by Poe969

If you are looking at a snapshot, 15th isn't bad at all. Just missed the playoffs.

BUT...when you draft at around 15 or so, you're not getting an elite prospect to help push you into the playoffs. If if the team is already on the decline and misses the playoffs it isn't a good sign.

So the Flames have been missing the playoffs year after year? News to me. When I look at the standings, I see the only time they did that was just before and during the last rebuild, two management teams ago… but what do I know?

No one is asking so I will. What's the deal Jay? Are you related to someone in management? In a relationship with someone in management or something?

Here we go with the same stupid accusation that the negative loonies always level at anyone who finds anyone positive in a situation. ‘What are you, X's mom?’ ‘Who are you sleeping with?’ etc., etc. All you do when you resort to this is make yourself look petty and ignorant.

How can you seriously defend the way the team has been run over the past 15 years or so.

Only in your imagination does ‘I'm tired of people blaming Brad Treliving for things that never even happened’ somehow twist into ‘I'm defending the way the team has been run’. You are so damned negative that you can't accept any adjective but ‘worse’ or ‘worst’ applied to the Calgary Flames. That's your problem, not mine.

As for the current management group, the team is in a worse position now than they were 7 years ago when they took over.

You'll have to spell that one out. Seven years ago, the Flames were coming off a 27th-place finish and had nothing to show for it but the 4th pick in an admittedly weak draft. Their leading scorer was Jiri freaking Hudler, a castoff from the Detroit organization. They had a few promising young players like Monahan and Gaudreau, but we all know now how those guys turned out and a lot of CP can't wait to run them out of town. What on earth did they have then that was better than now?

It's hard to believe they've all of a sudden figured everything out and now know what to do, that's why so many of us are jaded.

Just explain why you have so much faith in this team and the people running it.

I have very little faith in the team or the people running it. I have no faith at all in the people who hate it and have to keep exaggerating and making up preposterous scenarios just so they can have more things to hate. I'm tired of it and I wish it would stop.

The real situation is bad enough. Screaming about how much worse you are certain Brad ‘World's Biggest Idiot’ Treliving is inevitably going to make it does nothing but make other people miserable.

I am seriously thinking of giving up being a hockey fan altogether, because the only way I have of talking with other fans is through places like this one, and the toxicity has grown beyond belief. The naysayers are not half as sick of the Flames as I am sick of the naysayers. And I see no hope of an improvement in that, no matter what the team does.