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Nothing else I had read or seen from these beta tester videos indicate that. They all say "it's only using vision cameras" even when driving city streets. Which makes that "almost hitting the rail pylons" incident even more confusing.
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Beta 9 is vision only it works on the latest models that have no radar. This is not an issue of "seeing", the 8 cameras see everything it's a coding/AI challenge. The FSD computer saw the pillars but didn't understand exactly what they were. Radar doesn't solve this at all as I said the more sensors you have the harder it is to decide which is correct. Radar is not some magic signal where you bounce it off something and it automatically tells you, hey that's something you can crash into. The signal has to be interpreted and acted on, which is something traditionally a human does people see the radar map and decide.
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Wouldn't radar have detected that? I assume this also means the beta is not available yet no new Model 3's and Y's, since they don't have radar sensors, and version 9 software would still need them on city streets?
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Beta 9 only uses cameras! And again it's not a detection issue it's something more training will solve.
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Just wondering if the testing videos we are seeing are what they claim they are. From the video I linked, "This is totally FSD 8 behaviour"...probably because it is. So beta 10 will actually be where they go full vision only. I guess this is what happens when you don't have a PR department, and do it all through tweets and "influencers".
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Again, beta 9 works on cars that have no radar sensors which is every Model 3 and Y currently being made. FSD non beta package also works with said models as does the standard collision avoidance system. Vision only, no radar. It was recently tested and did at least as well as the previous version that used radar.
What Tesla is attempting is way beyond any real world AI I've seen so far, it does great 98% of the time it's that last 2% that is hard. That's why I said recently I think we are a year+ out before this works better than a human driver on average.