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Originally Posted by Lanny_McDonald
Goalposts weren't moved. Come on, you have to see the connection between a piss poor development system and the lack of draft picks. I know you're smarter than that and you recognized the context when I originally posted "The Flames can't afford to move any youth. Seriously, they don't have the cap space, they don't have the prospects in development, and they don't have the picks. They need the young players on cheap contracts to keep the team afloat. What you see is what you have. Until they start peeling off the big salaries, nothing changes." The link here is obvious. The Flames don't have a ton of young players like Valimaki and Dube they can dump and then replace with similar bodies from the minors, and they don't have any on the horizon thanks to Treliving's mismanagement of our assets. We need every single pick, and more, to restock the system with players who have a hope of playing in the NHL. We may have three extra picks beyond what we are allotted by the league, but we need all of those to try and build some organizational depth.
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What are you using to determine the development system is piss poor? They've graduated a lot of players in the past several years.
Have they graduated more or less than the average team with the same amount of selections in the last five years? I think that's the study.
Graduate rate based on pick tiers or something?
But I think the bigger culprit is the amount of picks moved, not the ability to develop once they're selected.
Off the top of my head guys that have come up and played a role ...
Mangiapane
Dube
Andersson
Kylington
Valimaki
Mackey
Gawdin
Rittich
Hathaway
Kulak
I wouldn't put Tkachuk on the list as he came in "developed"