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Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague

It is dissimilar though, and you've just highlighted why. Take what abuse for so long? What is the ongoing abuse that's still being taken in this case? The BLM protests were about ongoing acts of violence - "the police keep doing this to us, they're still doing it, it needs to stop, so we're going to smash these windows and set that Dairy Queen on fire". Obviously we had a lot of good (and some bad) debate about the merits of that position last year, but I don't think anyone was suggesting that there isn't an ongoing problem with policing in the USA leading to bad outcomes for black people on a large scale.

Here, there are two complaints. One is the behaviour of the people responsible for Residential Schools, including the Catholic Church. That behaviour has stopped. They are no longer engaged in the atrocities we're complaining about. There's no need to vandalize churches to get them to stop doing it - they already have. The second complaint is that they have inadequately apologized for, or addressed, the historical atrocities they've committed. Is that concern, about the Church's half-assed attempt to atone for its past failures, in any way a reasonable basis for vandalism, even if you think vandalism for ideology is sometimes acceptable?

My position was and remains that the vandalism, looting, violence etc. that occurred in response to Floyd and other similar events last year was not justified, but there is an obvious difference between the things these groups are concerned with. One is concerned with stopping what they see as an ongoing project of murdering people who look like them. The other is concerned with getting an adequate apology, and perhaps restitution (financial or otherwise) for conduct that stopped years ago. These are not analogous.

By refusing to acknowledge the TRC reports and their obligations under it, and their payments they bailed on. Failing to take responsibility and publicly apologizing. The abuse is mental at this point. By not cooperating with investigations and releasing all documents they have, they continue the abuse. How can they be expected to heal when the perpetrators of their abuse continue to act this way?