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Originally Posted by the_only_turek_fan
I meant starter.
My non scientific method of determining HOF players is my 5-7 rule.
Was the player in the top 5-7 of his position for at least 5-7 years?
Vernon - questionable.
MAF - questionable.
On Vernon, the overall accomplishments speak volumes. However for me as a Flames fan the failures as there too.
What happens in 1991 if he stops that shot from Tikannen? Not the OT goal but the first goal when CGY was up 3-0.
At the end I think Vernon should get in. He was better than Ranford, MacLean, Hrudey, Richter, Barrasso, Hextall, etc...
I think Roy, Broduer, Belfour and Hasek were better. Hasek is the greatest goalie to ever live IMO. But I am sure older fans will disagree.
The one I struggle with is Joseph. Could never win the big game. But so good and so steady for so long.
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This is me too. I still see Krushelnyski's weak shot floating into the net with Vernon falling backwards with his tiny arms unable to reach it. And like I said before, Vernon won cups on an incredibly stacked 89 Flames and the Wings, which may work against him. To some extent the fact he and Osgood were on the same team and won overlapping cups works against them ("see, those Wings can win no matter who their starter is").
Matt Murray will have two cup rings (at least) when he retires but no one talks about him going to the HOF for obvious reasons - he just isn't an elite goalie.