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CASe333 · 06-20-2021, 09:22 PM

I found the argument that Marc-Andre Fleury was not a Hall of famer polarizing. With a bit of research seeing Chris Osgood, Curtis Joseph, John Vanbiesbrouck, Andy Moog, Ron Hextall and Mike Vernon not in the Hall of Frame (HOF) surprises me. All of these players have either won championships, had records or personal awards BUT most importantly showed longevity with very good stats for their eras!!!

First see data based on their total wins ranking and overall stats:

https://www.quanthockey.com/nhl/reco...s-leaders.html

My argument:
Up and until 1989 there was a goalie inducted into the HHOF almost every year. Suddenly in 1990 they decided to completely rewrite what a HHOF goalie was. Despite the league expanding from 21 to eventually over 30 teams only Grant Fuhr, Patrick Roy, Ed Belfour, Dominik Hasek, and Rogie Vachon (1966-81) are considered HHOF since then. With more teams it has definitely gotten harder to get into the HHOF!!? I get there is a time lag with inductees but why is there so few goalies in the HHOF age > 1965? The goalie is the most important position in hockey is it not? Why is the HHOF not celebrating Osgood (dominant win % and multiple championships or players like Curtis Joseph with 943gp, 454 Wins). For me the wins should be most important factor because as a goalie that's all that matters at the end of the day playing on a stacked team or not. Yes Stanley Cups or Vezinas matter but not having one or the other shouldn't break your chance from being in the HHOF if you dominated a stat like wins or SV% with an on OK teams like Vanbiesbrouck or Joseph did.

Where is your line for the HHOF for goalies inductees? Who should be in the HHOF?

06-20-2021, 09:22 PM	#1
CASe333 Scoring Winger Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Victoria Exp:	Hall of Fame Goalies I found the argument that Marc-Andre Fleury was not a Hall of famer polarizing. With a bit of research seeing Chris Osgood, Curtis Joseph, John Vanbiesbrouck, Andy Moog, Ron Hextall and Mike Vernon not in the Hall of Frame (HOF) surprises me. All of these players have either won championships, had records or personal awards BUT most importantly showed longevity with very good stats for their eras!!! First see data based on their total wins ranking and overall stats: https://www.quanthockey.com/nhl/reco...s-leaders.html My argument: Up and until 1989 there was a goalie inducted into the HHOF almost every year. Suddenly in 1990 they decided to completely rewrite what a HHOF goalie was. Despite the league expanding from 21 to eventually over 30 teams only Grant Fuhr, Patrick Roy, Ed Belfour, Dominik Hasek, and Rogie Vachon (1966-81) are considered HHOF since then. With more teams it has definitely gotten harder to get into the HHOF!!? I get there is a time lag with inductees but why is there so few goalies in the HHOF age > 1965? The goalie is the most important position in hockey is it not? Why is the HHOF not celebrating Osgood (dominant win % and multiple championships or players like Curtis Joseph with 943gp, 454 Wins). For me the wins should be most important factor because as a goalie that's all that matters at the end of the day playing on a stacked team or not. Yes Stanley Cups or Vezinas matter but not having one or the other shouldn't break your chance from being in the HHOF if you dominated a stat like wins or SV% with an on OK teams like Vanbiesbrouck or Joseph did. Where is your line for the HHOF for goalies inductees? Who should be in the HHOF?