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It's actually quite strategic in nature.
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First of all I will concede to you on a couple of your points because I want to improve our top 6 depth and agree players don’t always have allegiances to the team so they are movable and you can’t always get attached.
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Says more about Tkachuk than anything. If all it took was a puck flip and his team telling him to act like an adult to ruin his season, that is a player you don't want on your team. That spells headcase. If that is really what sent him in a downward spiral, get him the #### out of town ASAP. The team will be better off without that type of drama.
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The kid plays with his heart on his sleeve and had a bad season and looked a lot better near the end of the year. He is young and maturing and to be fair he is actually pretty mature for his age. I for one will give him a pass on this COVID, fan free season.
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You mean like when Treliving traded Hamilton and spare parts for Lindholm and Hanifin? Two lesser players that turned out to be superior team players and gave the team more depth? Yeah, that was a dumb deal.
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Ok when it comes to Lindholm and Hanifin they were both acquired when they were 21 and 23 years old or something. They were high picks with tonnes of runway ahead of them to breakout, which is exactly what Lindholm did. I am all for a home run looking deal like that but when I see Reinhart and Olofsson getting thrown around for Tkachuk, guys who will be 26-27 to start next season, it’s not the same thing.
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The reality of the NHL is depth trumps super stars. Vegas is a team without superstar players, but they have depth that grinds you into the ground. Calgary should be emulating that model, not chasing the unicorns like they do in Edmonton. Money puck is real and it is effective. Give me two guys that will put up 50-60 points versus a single guy who puts up 70-80 for similar money, and I'll have better results. That's the bottom line. Results.
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Yea Vegas, a team with Fleury, Stone, Pietrangelo and Theodore are just a depth team that grinds you into the ground..
How many teams can say they have superstars? Like 4? TB, EDM, COL, PIT?
What is your definition of a super star?
Mark Stone scoring at a point per game pace over the last 4 seasons while also being elite defensively may not be super star calibre but it’s damn close. If he stayed healthy he would be putting up 80 point seasons.
Fleury looking like a top 3 goalie since arriving in Vegas after the career he’s had may not technically meet super star standards but he is one of the best at stopping pucks.
Having two #1 Dmen that aren’t super stars but continue to score goals, set up plays and shut down opponents is not a luxury most teams have.
Calling Vegas merely a depth team is disingenuous, they have top players, at every position, that can be discussed in the same conversation as any other top player in the league.
Yes, they have depth but they also have a handful of the best players. If they aren’t exactly “super stars” so be it.
What we need to do is continue to build through the draft and keep a look out for opportunities to snatch up good players that teams want to move on from - much like Lindholm and Hanifin.
Yes, if Tkachuk is gonna play hard ball and wants top dollar you look at trading him before it’s too late but, much like Johnny, if these guys are willing to stay for a fair amount you do it.