[Cali Panthers Fan]

Originally Posted by AustinL_NHL

Andrew Mangiapane was the Flames' best forward at 5v5 this past season. By far offensively, and arguably defensively.

He has GROSSLY outperformed his contracts thus far and whatever he gets on his next deal, he will also likely outperform, especially if it comes in at under $5M.

Getting Mangiapane locked up on a long term deal (6+ years) under $5M would likely be Treliving's biggest win (right up there with Lindholm's contract).

The guy is a fuc**** stud and the underappreciation he gets on this board is past the comical point and starting to reach disappointing levels.

Mangiapane is an ELITE 5v5 offensive player.

Mangiapane is an ELITE 5v5 defensive player.

It's total BS that he hasn't gotten top unit PP time. The second he does will result in the ultimate breakout season.

Originally Posted by timun

Marchand also had seasons of 55 points in 76 games, and 36 points in 45 games; even his first full season in the NHL he had 41 points in 77 games. Better than Andrew Mangiapane has ever done.

You absolutely are cherry-picking complementary stats, I don't care how many 5v5 points per 60 minutes while the blood moon is in Aquarius with Venus ascendent you want to quote: you're trying to paint a picture that Andrew Mangiapane and Brad Marchand are on a similar career track. They're not. Marchand is a categorically better player. He was then, he is now. Sorry to be the bearer of that news, but it's true.

As such any GM with half a brain would never EVER sign Andrew Mangiapane to a contract anywhere near $5M a year, let alone the $6M bandied about earlier, at this point in his career. It's asinine. If he turns into an 85-point-per-year player the calibre of Marchand then great, fine, pay the man. As of yet he's a decent middle-six winger, and you DO NOT SPEND THAT KIND OF MONEY ON THAT KIND OF PLAYER.

Thank **** you fools aren't Flames GM...

The truth is somewhere in between these two posts.