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Originally Posted by TheScorpion
Just wanted to return to this for a sec. I've done nothing but provide quantitative evidence in this thread, showing categories where Mangiapane has ranked among the league's best players over the last two seasons. These are statistics. These numbers are real. You can debate the merits of them if you want to, but they exist.
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And this is the weakness of statistics. If the data is not consistent or normalized the stats generated are flawed and not really reflective of the complexity in the system. The statistics can say one thing (Ty Conklin was a better goaltender than Martin Brodeur) but the picture reality paints is much different. I mean, mentioning Mangiapane in the same breath of players who score two to three times the points he does makes the argument and use of those statistics look ridiculous. Relying solely on 5-on-5 stats eliminates a huge part of the game where the best players on each team are out on the ice and big part of offense is generated. A PPG still counts as much as a 5-on-5 goal, as do assists, so discounting those points is a little disingenuous.