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Old 06-03-2021, 05:45 PM   #39
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Originally Posted by TheScorpion View Post
maybe I'm just actually a homer for good players

anyway it's really hard to judge Mangiapane's points because he hasn't been given the same high-leverage opportunities as stars around the league but his early-career production is very similar to that of Brad Marchand, who was a similarly undervalued and under-deployed player (typically averaging less than 17 minutes a night and getting very little PP time) until around the 2015–16 season.

This season, Mangiapane was the 14th-most valuable offensive player at even strength in the entire NHL (according to Evolving-Hockey's expected goals above replacement model). The folks ahead of him?

Matthews, Nurse, McDavid, DeBrincat, Chychrun, Draisaitl, Rantanen, Barkov, Burakovsky, Marchand, Robertson, Orlov, and Huberdeau

You can dismiss a guy's reputation but it doesn't really get you anywhere. These were the top guys in the league at driving offensive play this year. When they were on the ice, their teams dominated — and they were the reason. And they're expected to continue at that level.
Although an extremely subjective stat, thats great.

the game goes so much deeper than that though and he is NOT elite in any single area of it.

Great young player...with potential to be better. Thats it.

Other 6M players include Marchand, Scheifle, Larkin, Nelson, RNH, Zuccarello, Forsberg, Ehlers and on and on.

Come on.
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