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Originally Posted by CroFlames
Is anyone arguing a lot Indigenous folks weren't indoctrinated? That was the whole point of residential schools.
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I don't think anyone is. But the whole point of
Christianity is indoctrination, in a sense. It's a missionary religion.
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Your (an others) argument is that you'd boldly tell these people that the religion they follow currently was forced down the throats of their ancestors, and therefore they should leave this religion immediately. Also, the institution itself that they follow is responsible for untold evil from ancient history until now.
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That does seem to be the argument. And if that is the argument, there's no basis for not offering it equally whether the person you're talking to is an indigenous Catholic or any other Catholic. It really just boils down to, "you shouldn't be a Catholic because the Catholic Church is awful, and you should avoid association with organizations that are awful".
Now, personally, I've never attempted to make that argument to a Catholic because I think it's fruitless and I don't know the specific situation of the person I'd be trying to tell that to - maybe for them, the Catholic Church is a force for good, and has led them to personal happiness and the will to bring happiness to others. My objections to the Church are at a more macro level.
But the argument is pretty coherent - it's downright simple. The suggestion that it can only be made to people of some ethnicities and not others is absurd, and patronizing.
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Unless this group that was indoctrinated or descended from indoctrinated ancestors realize this on their own, you won't change their mind.
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True. Well, generally true, some people do actually leave the Church, including as a result of atrocities committed by the Church coming to light and the Church's response to them.
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And isn't trying to do so the same as trying to convert them?
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No. Not having a belief system is not itself a belief system.