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Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina
While appreciating the work put into it - the view is still too simple. Pass/fail is too binary.
For example these two drafts are classified both as "pass" when one is clearly MUCH better but that isn't accounted for at all.
2011 - Overall Grade - Pass
13th - Baertschi - Fail
45th - Granlund - Pass
57th - Wotherspoon - Fail
104th - Gaudreau - Pass
164th - Brossoit - Pass
2016 - Overall Grade - Pass
6th - Tkachuk - Pass
54th - Parsons - Fail
56th - Dube - Pass
66th - Fox - Pass
96th - Lindstrom - Fail
126th - Mattson - Fail
156th - Tuulola - TBD
166th - Phillips - TBD
186th - Falovsky - Fail
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I did talk about the Pass guys after listing the draft classes.
Anyways, how is one of these classes much better than the other? Discounting the spot the players were picked at...the picks that became good players...
Gaudreau > Tkachuk. It might be a reverse when its all set and done but for now Gaudreau is the better player and likely will finish his career as the better player as well.
Granlund = Dube. Dube has time to be better or be out of the league before he matches Granlund's career totals.
Fox > Brossoit. Looks like this will hold but can Fox turn into a Del Zotto or a Gostisbhere? and Brossoit catched on with some team and becomes a #1? It is possible, Fox has only done it for 2 years so far.
The only thing one class has more is the number of picks.
As for as taking a deep dive into who were the guys that were picks around the Flames picks, it doesn't really matter imo. The Flames didn't take them.
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Looking at the bigger picture, the Flames constantly sign bottom 6 forwards in the free agency to fill out their roster. They traded away picks for top 4 dmen. They had been goalie hunting since Kipper retired (may still be, jury is out on Markstrom).
Your drafting should be able to find you depth players at the least. But looking at their bottom 6 forward for majority of the year were Lucic (trade), Ryan (UFA), Leivo (UFA), Ritchie (UFA), Dube (Draft), Nordstrom (UFA). Thats 1 out of 6 they drafted.
Year before it was Lucic (trade), Ryan (UFA), Frolik (UFA), Reider (UFA), Bennett (Draft), Jankowski (Draft), Dube (Draft)...4 out of 7 were UFAs with 2 internal draft picks being shipped out within a year.
On the bright side the top 6 is mostly drafted (they are the core players that get questioned a lot for this teams failures) but they were drafted by this scouting department.
They leave a lot on the table imo. A lot of talk and whole lot of nothing.