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Old 05-23-2021, 08:17 AM   #3742
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Originally Posted by TOfan View Post
I think you’re being a bit disingenuous. There are several others on this list that made positive contributions. Hiller played well for his first year. Quine was a solid AHL/fill in guy. Chad Johnson played well. Ronaldo did what he was supposed to do. Rieder outplayed his one year league minimum two way contract, I would say. Talbot was good and I don’t mind Stone on a one year league min contract either. Lastly, I would bet Markstrom will also make significant contributions and prove to play well and represent good value on his deal.

We can quibble over league min contracts, but if you look around the league, I bet you will see these sorts of contracts on nearly every other team.

I do not agree that there is anything disingenuous.

Like I said, if you group these UFA acquisitions in to good / neutral / bad, not much of what you pick out here is classified as good IMO

Hiller - yes, out of 2 years, one was good and one was was historically bad, and he played himself out of the league. Call it neutral overall
Quine - call it neutral. He had played 82 games over 2 seasons with the Isles, and 22 over 2 seasons with Calgary. AHL filler, not good, not bad. Neutral
Chad Johnson - .910 in a year where average was .913. Serviceable but nothing special. Call it neutral
Rieder - it was a reclamation project. He was a ~30 point guy in Arizona, had a season in Edmonton where management blamed him on missing the POs, and put up 10 points in 55 games here. Yeah it was league minimum but hardly more than neutral
Stone - sure signing him at league min was good but he was earlier signed for much more and had to be bought out, and only got his shot this year when Hanifin got hurt. How low is the bar getting to give Tre credit for UFA signings?
Rinaldo - again, how low is the bar getting?
Talbot - yes he was good. For 1 year, he had above average stats, and he didn’t factor in to the team’s plans.
Markstrom - significantly underperformed his contract in year 1. He will improve under Sutter team D for sure, and that bar has to be around ~.918 and 2.3. Could turn out good over the next 6 years but it fits in the neutral bucket at best for year 1 with a case for not good.

I am not looking to criticize league min contracts, I was listing all the UFA signings I could find and looking for good ones, not partly good with asterisks, or neutral. Good ones
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