Reading this thread, one thing I can't get out of my head is that most of this stuff just seems to fail on conventional logic. Like we're taking something unlikely (aliens, or even advanced military technology) and applying even more unlikely scenarios to it to make it possible.
If it were aliens, let's say. We have to believe that:
1. They've smart enough to develop these things
2. They're smart enough to travel here
3. They know enough about us, our technology, our vision, etc, to avoid being discovered
4. They're smart enough not to be discovered
Great, but we also have to recognize:
1. They're not smart enough to be entirely undiscovered/unseen OR
2. They don't care if they're discovered
If it's 1: that seems to defy logic. You have the technology to do all this, but don't have technology to avoid being discovered, doesn't make sense.
If it's 2: then why aren't they more obvious, doesn't make sense
It just fails common sense. They either understand the value of being undiscovered and, despite this advanced technology, can't fully achieve that. Or they don't care, and somehow have mostly avoided it for no other reason than luck. This rings true for both aliens and advanced human tech.
It just seems like people want to believe in something magical. Which is fine, too. But it's most likely just trick of the light, or something. One of the 100 more likely explanations.
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