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Originally Posted by PepsiFree
3. But, but, but Hamas
Yes, Hamas is a terrorist organization. Yes, Hamas fires rockets. Yes, Hamas hold terrible views. Yes, Hamas are not to be defended. How many times does this need to be brought up? How many people are actually defending Hamas from a moral view? If people are, quote them and address it. The "people are doing this!" thing is meaningless. Quote and reply. What most people are doing in regards to Hamas are giving practical explanations for why they do what they do. This is different from defending them. When people bring up something critical of Hamas, nobody goes "Yeah but they're actually really good for all these unrelated reasons!" And yet somehow this complete lack of defence of Hamas is seen as equal to the full-fledged defence of Israel some are undertaking. It's nonsense.
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I am sorry, I think this is dead wrong and frankly crap.
In this thread, people are attempting to actually justify Hamas's actions, by, as you say providing a "practical explanation" for what they do. Its wrong. This is defending their actions- you don't get to seperate out the morality of an action when you provide justification for why it occurs. You can kick and scream that you aren't defending it, but you are.
Hamas is a terrorists' organization. When they commit an atrocity, throwing it on Israel's boots is crap.
Israel has committed war crimes. When they commit an atrocity, throwing it on Hamas' boots is crap.
Hamas being terrorist and Israel war crimes - neither is an excuse for the other, and they are not mutually exclusive.