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Originally Posted by CroFlames
70 years ago a bunch of Palestinians were minding their own damn business when bam, the State of Israel shows up out of no where and they are politely told to go away.
They didn’t forget that (hence today’s problems) and they won’t forget this.
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I think you meant to say "70 years ago a bunch of Arab farmers living in the British-controlled area they called 'British Palestine' were minding their own business when a bunch of Jews immigrated and bought up a tonne of land from non-resident Arab landowners (primarily in Syria and Jordan, wanted to live on and work/operate said land themselves, so the poor 'serfs'/farmers had to leave".
Then "bam, the UN partitions the "British Palestine" territory into Arab and Jewish "halves", the Jews accept the plan (since 90% of the land was already under Jewish ownership/title anyway, and they get a state of their own), and the local Arabs reject it, as well as all of the neighbouring Arab countries that promise to back them, then say their only acceptable deal is to "drive the jews into the sea", and declare war on the newly established state of Israel."
And then over subsequent failed invasions and attempts at extermination of Jews that live in the state of Israel, the Jews manage to drive back the Arab armies and capture additional territory (oh no, that's never been allowed to happen by any other country in the world
). Consequently, they have always given the captured territory back in exchange for peace deals and normalization of relations between the countries (the kicker is that the country has to recognize the state of Israel and its right to exist).
Egypt got the Sinai Peninsula back as a result of the peace deal with Israel, and Jordan their territory back as part of the peace deal too.
Obviously this is a vast oversimplification of the history, and it's much more nuanced than that. I do know the history of this area better than most, IMHO, but I still don't know more than I claim to know. It's complicated, there are no easy answers, and it's not a simple "Israel bad, Palestinians good" (or Hamas is not so bad) narrative that I see here all the time.
Context is king... the more you know.