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Originally Posted by TOfan
Here’s a list of all the players selected with the picks Treliving has surrendered:
Matheson Iacopelli
Zachary Senyshyn
Jacob Forsback Karlson
Jeremy Lauzon
Jens Looke
Adin Hill
Jordan Kyrou
Nicolas Nordgren
Stuart Skinner
Akira Schmid
Alex Formenton
Noah Dobson
Ruslan Ishakov
Samuel Bolduc
Kevin Wall
Tyler Angle
Kim Nouslianen
Juho Markkanen
Wyatt Kaiser
He also has an outstanding 4th to LA for the disastrous Forbort trade.
I’ve highlighted the players that look to be actual NHL player. Of course, we should also take into account some of the players Treliving drafted with picks he acquired through trade, such as Anderson and Dube. Instead of presenting an argument without taking any context into account, which seems to be the popular sentiment around here, the full picture should be understood and acknowledged.
From an organizational perspective, and I can only make my assumptions from how this organization has gone about its business for decades, but making the playoffs is expected, not a luxury while they wait for a fraction of their draft picks to turn out.
Also worth pointing out that of the last four trades Treliving has made, he has acquired picks in all of them.
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Jeremy Lauzon played 41 games this year for the Bruins and 19 games last year so he looks like he is a NHL player
Formenton played 20 games for the Sens as a 21 year old, so he looks like he is a NHL player.
It is likely that one or two more pan out on that list, so even in a world where you compare just the players that were picked there are 7 players on that list.
The assets the Flames have left from those trades 24-48 months later are
Hanifin
Lindholm (although I would argue you should really only count one of these two players as Fox and Ferland were probably worth one of them)
I might be missing an asset from those trades, but that is really all I can think of.
Giving up 5 NHL players and potentially one or two more, all of whom are cost controlled to varying degrees for the first 7 years of their careers for one NHL asset is a tough look.