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Old 05-14-2021, 08:59 AM   #51
GioforPM
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Originally Posted by Monahammer View Post
Ok, sure, I'm willing to concede that.

But we're getting that player at 6.375 million for 2 more seasons.
The idea has always been that another 1B level Centre at least could emerge. It was supposed to be Bennett, and he was supposed to be better than Monahan. We all saw how that turned out here, blame it on whomever.

Lindholm I think is an interesting one, and IMO Darryl has the right of it stacking lindholm's line and letting Monahan play with Dube-Mangiapane.

The real problem has been complicated: for whatever reason Lindy-Tkachuk doesn't seem to produce a ton on it's own. The league also seems to have largely figured out Monahan-Gaudreau. Gaudreau-Lindholm-Tkachuk has been producing, but now Monahan is out and wasn't doing squat with Mangiapane and Dube.

So it seems the player mix is just a bit off, but I think we've seen evidence that the players have the talent to get there. That's probably why this is all so frustrating. But this could also help to explain why Bennett blossomed so quickly after the move.

I don't know whether it's personalities, play styles, something that happened, etc. But most of these guys have no chemistry at all with each other. When they do it's in the shortest bursts and is so fragile to maintain. Maybe it's a confidence thing? I still think we're missing a piece of the puzzle.

That's all besides the point. As you were saying, Monahan is in the bottom half of league top line centres, and signed for a reasonable rate for 2 more years. For a team with a real dynamite #1 C and looking for a push over the top, he could be a very attractive piece. Thats the point of this thread, he is still a valuable player.
I agree with almost all of that except the notion that Monahan Dube and Mangiapane didn’t work. I thought they were but then Sutter took Dube away and gave them Ritchie after only 2-3 games. I thought they needed more time. Lindholm, Tkachuk and Gaudreau had all played together before. Mangiapane, Monahan and Dube hadn’t ever had time together.
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